Throughout this ‘discussion’… I have presented both what the CC teaches… and what the Bible says. “None” of the responses have refuted = any of the Bible verses posted… with “Other Bible Verses”. Instead there have been ‘false accusations’… without any ‘Scriptural’ proof… that what was stated… ‘was my opinion’. IF in fact it was only my opinion… why was it “NOT Refuted” by Bible Verses…? Perhaps it is because ‘Catholics’… always hold their “Church Teaching”… “Above” that of the Bible! What did Jesus say… and what does His Word… say about this…?
*** (Matthew 4:4) But He [Jesus] answered and said, = It is written, = "Man shall not live by bread alone, = but by = EVERY WORD = that proceeds out of the mouth of God."
*** (Isaiah 1:18) Come now, = and let us = REASON TOGETHER, = says Jehovah; though your sins are as scarlet, = they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be like wool.
*** (Ephesians 5:10) = “PROVING” = what is acceptable to the Lord.
*** (Acts 17:11) And these were more noble = than those of Thessalonica, = in that they = received the WORD = with all readiness of mind = and = “SEARCHED” = the Scriptures = daily = to see = IF = those things were so.
*** (2Timothy 3:15-16-17) and that from a child = you have known = the Holy Scriptures, = which are able to make you = wise to salvation = through faith = in Christ Jesus.
(2Tim 3:16) All Scripture = is God-breathed, = and is profitable = for DOCTRINE, = for REPROOF, = for CORRECTION, = for INSTRUCTION in RIGHTEOUSNESS.
(2Tim 3:17) that the man of God = may be perfected, = thoroughly furnished = to every good work.
These Bible verses… make it quite ‘Plain & Clear’ that we are to take… “ONLY = The Word of God = Nothing More = Nothing Less! Those that think they know better than God and His Holy Word… are simply = “Anti – Christ!” Those that substitute = ANYTHING = for the Holy Word of God… make themselves higher than God! That is “NOT” possible… yet with their… “Religious Practices & Teaching”… they do that very thing! How can ‘Anyone’… say that ‘Anything’… can substitute or replace… the Holy Word of God…? No not even Church Teaching or Tradition.
*** (Proverbs 30:6) Do not add = to His Words, = lest He = reprove you = and you = be found = a “LIAR!”
*** (James 1:22) But become = doers of the Word, = and NOT = hearers only, = “DECEIVING” = your own selves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation
There is a Catholic Teaching… called “Transubstantiation”. In short it says that during the Mass… the bread and juice… is changed into the Body & Blood of Jesus Christ. The Bible teaches… “NO – SUCH THING”…! It is strictly a ‘Catholic Church’ teaching. Perhaps we can look at the “Scriptures, The Bible”… and see what it really Says…? IF this one area of teaching is WRONG… then it would indicate that “ALL”… of the other teaching of the Catholic Church… that ‘disagree’… with the Bible… are also “Wrong!”
*** (Matthew 22:29) Jesus answered and said to them, = You ERR, = not knowing = the Scriptures = nor the power of God.
*** (John 6:48-to-64) I [Jesus] am the Bread of life. Please open your Bible and reference this section of the Scripture. When Christ told them to… Eat His Flesh and Drink His Blood… it was simply a Word Picture of His… Once for All Time & Eternity… His sacrifice for SIN/SINS…!
(John 6:62) Then what if you should see the Son of Man going up where He was before?
(John 6:63) It is the Spirit = that makes alive, = the flesh profits nothing. = The words that I [Jesus] = speak to you = are spirit = and are life.
(John 6:64) But there are some of you who do not believe. For Jesus knew from the beginning = who they were = who did not believe, = and who is the one betraying Him.
To understand these Verses… you must “FIRST”… understand the Old Testament economy of the Sacrifices for “SIN/SINS”…! Daily there was on the Jewish alter; both ‘Moring & Evening’… a sacrifices for Sin. Feast days and Passover… there were also sacrifices called out in the Law of Moses. A continual smell of Burning Sacrifices… could be smelled… “All the Time!” In addition, those that committed ‘Sins & Trespasses’… had offerings required under the Law, that were continually being offered.
*** (1Corinthians 5:7) Therefore purge out the old leaven = so that you may be a new lump, as you are unleavened. = For also = “Christ our Passover” = is sacrificed = for us.
*** (John 19:30) Then when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, = “IT = IS = FINISHED!” = And He bowed His head = and gave up the spirit.
*** (Hebrews 10:10-11-12) By this will = we are sanctified = through the offering = of the body of Jesus Christ = ONCE = FOR = = ALL!
(Heb 10:11) And indeed every [OT] priest stands ‘daily’ ministering = and offering often = the same sacrifices, = which can = “NEVER” = take away sins.
(Heb 10:12) But this Man [Jesus], = after He [Jesus] = had offered = “ONE SACRIFICE” = for sins = “FORVER” = sat down on the right of God,
“Christ Jesus”… the Passover Lamb of God… offered Himself… “ONE TIME”… for “All SIN/SINS” = “FOREVER!” Those OT sacrifices were done away with… when Christ Offered Himself! No OT priest ever ‘sat down’… “Because”… his work was… “Never Finished!” Continual Sacrifices for Sins… went on and on and on. But this Man… this God Man… Christ Jesus… sacrificed Himself… “ONCE FOR ALL”… “Never” to be sacrificed… Again! “IT IS FINISHED”…? The One Time for ALL… Passover Sacrifice… Christ Jesus… to purchase redemption for mankind!
*** (Romans 5:1) Therefore being = justified by faith, = we have [eternal] = peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.
*** (Galatians 2:16) knowing = that a man = is not justified = by works of the Law, = but through faith in Jesus Christ; = even we believed in Jesus Christ, = that we might be justified = by the faith in Christ, = and not by works of the Law. = For all flesh = will not be justified = by works of law.
*** (Ephesians 2:8-9-10) For by grace = you are saved = through FAITH, = and that ‘not’ of yourselves, = it is the gift of God,
(Eph 2:9) NOT of works, = lest ‘anyone’ should boast.
(Eph 2:10) For we are His workmanship, = created in Christ Jesus = TO good works, = which God has before ordained = that we should WALK in them.
*** (Hebrews 10:38-39-40) Now, "the Just shall live by faith. = But if he draws back, = My soul shall have no pleasure in him."
(Heb 10:39) But we are NOT of those = withdrawing to destruction, = but of those who believe = to the preserving of the soul.
*** (Hebrews 11:39) And these all, = having obtained a good report = through FAITH, = did ‘not’ = receive the promise,
(Heb 11:40) for God had provided some better thing for us, = that they should NOT be made perfect without us.
Furthermore, a reading… of the NT book of Hebrews; ‘all of it’… will explain “Christ’s One and Final Sacrifice”… under the ‘New Covenant’… by God… for all Mankind. The OT economy of the ‘Animal Sacrifices’… were ‘REPALCED’ with… “Christ Our Passover” = One Time = Once For All! The NT Christian… ‘looks back’… to Christ’s Sacrifice… the way the OT believer… ‘looked forward’… to the “One Sacrifice for All SIN!” Surely Christ Jesus…“IS NOT”… sacrificed again…. “Each time & Every time”… there is a Mass…! It is written… “The Just… shall… Live By Faith!”
IF one depends… on the Scriptures “ALONE”…as Jesus said… “But by Every Word of God”… they need ‘NOT’ be taken in by some ‘Religion’… that says… ‘Other’ than the Scriptures! Their ‘Problem’ comes from… “NOT” Understanding Biblical Forgiveness! There are ‘two kinds’ of Forgiveness… “Positional in Christ” = …and “Practical by Practice”. [See 1John 1:5-to-10] The Bible is ‘Replete’ with Word Pictures showing Salvation… by God’s Grace & Mercy… Alone!
http://truth459.blogspot.com/2009/03/forgiveness-101.html
*** (Galatians 3:2-3) This only I would learn from you: = Did you receive the Spirit [Romans 8:9] = by Works of the Law, = or by the “HEARING OF FAITH?” [Promise from Jesus = John 7:38-39]
(Gal 3:3) Are you so FOOLISH? = Having begun in the [Holy] Spirit, = do you now = perfect yourself in the flesh?
Good Works… can ‘NEVER’ save anyone! No one is perfect and GOD; requires perfection… to let one into heaven! That is why the “True Christian”… ‘Lives by FAITH’… and their good works… follow… that Faith In Christ! One does “NOT”… Earn their Salvation… it is by God’s ‘Grace & Mercy’… “ALONE”… in the Finished Work of Christ Jesus, the Messiah…! It is because of Salvation… that one does good works. Not the other way around; as many are taught in earning salvation. In each World Religion… salvation is ‘Worked For!’ Yes even in some of those ‘Pseudo’ [False] Christian Religions!
The ‘ONE’… who is in Christ Jesus… need not go to man for forgiveness, it is assured by the Finished Work of Redemption and Justification… by Christ’s Once for ALL… “One Time Sacrifice of Himself!” When that transaction; takes place, known by God… He then ‘Seals that Person’… with His Holy Spirit… for Eternity! The Holy Spirit “NEVER Leaves”… those that are Truly Born Again! This ‘Anointing & Sealing’ of the Holy Spirit is explained in this blog and in the Scriptures following!
http://truth459.blogspot.com/2010/07/anointing-101blog.html
*** (Ephesians 1:7-to-14) In Him [Jesus] = we have redemption = through His blood, = the forgiveness of sins, = according to the riches of His grace,
(Eph 1:8) which He caused = to abound toward us = in all wisdom = and understanding;
(Eph 1:9) having made known to us = the mystery of His will, = according to His good pleasure = which He purposed in Himself,
(Eph 1:10) for an administration of the fullness of times, = to head up = all things in Christ, = both the things in Heaven, = and the things on earth, = even in Him,
(Eph 1:11) in Whom also = we have been chosen = to an inheritance, = being predestinated = according to the purpose of Him = Who works all things = according to the counsel of His own will,
(Eph 1:12) for us = to be to the praise of His glory, = who previously = had trusted in Christ;
(Eph 1:13) in whom also you, = Hearing the Word of Truth, = the gospel of our salvation, = in whom also believing, = you were SEALED = with the Holy Spirit of promise,
(Eph 1:14) WHO is = the EARNEST of our inheritance, = to the redemption of the purchased possession [us], = to the praise of His glory.
Perhaps after reading all this… will you still believe that Christ Jesus, the Passover Lamb of God… ‘is sacrificed’… each and every time there is a Mass…? That the wafer and the juice… is really changed into the ‘body & blood’ of Christ…? Did you miss… “The Just shall Live By FAITH”…? Faith in that “Finished Work of Redemption”… by Christ Jesus the Messiah…? Please tell me, you really don’t believe that…?
Do you mean… to speak outside of the Scriptures… and call “The Word”… ‘LIES’…? When Christ JESUS said… “IT IS FINISHED”… you say… ‘He really didn’t mean that’…? Each time during every Mass in every Catholic Church… throughout the entire world… “Christ is Sacrificed” and that is shown by…“Transubstantiation”… ‘Again’ and ‘Again’ and ‘Again’…? Please tell me you don’t believe that…?
*** (John 19:30) Then when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, = It is finished! = And He bowed His head = and gave up the spirit.
*** (Hebrews 10:10-11-12) By this will = we are sanctified = through the offering = of the body of Jesus Christ = ONCE = FOR = = ALL!
(Heb 10:11) And indeed every priest stands daily ministering = and offering often = the same sacrifices, = which can = “NEVER” = take away sins.
(Heb 10:12) But this Man [Jesus], = after He [Jesus] = had offered = ONE SACRIFICE = for sins = FORVER = SAT down on the right of God,
Continued…
Thanks, In Christ, Roger
Ende…!
